Most underrated singers

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Jimlejim
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Most underrated singers

Postby Jimlejim » 10 Mar 2016, 13:20

Let's list some underrated singers, but focus on only a few. What singers were really as excellent or even better than some of the biggest stars, yet far less popular?
Tenor freak. :D

Geoff
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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby Geoff » 10 Mar 2016, 17:57

Go on then. There's no end of 'em on youtube and here's two to be going on with:

Franco lo Giudice (c. 1923)
Roberto D'Alessio (c.1928) This a tenor who I like,

Regards,
Geoff.

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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby MLaChance » 10 Mar 2016, 20:03

Hi, in my opinion these are two (of many) of the most underrated singers of the 20th century, they made big careers in their respective repertoire but didn't achieve the amount of international recognition that other singers of equal rank did, their careers were concentrated in Italy, Germany, Austria and England mostly:

Emma Renzi -

Carla Pohl -

Let me know if you agree! :D

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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby TifosoBonisolli » 11 Mar 2016, 21:47

Although I'm most grateful for the two sopranos (I knew neither of them), I have to say that they don't convince me. Both are pretty sharp-voiced, Renzi even terribly so.
I fully agree with the nomination of d'Alessio, who was a sorely underrated world-class tenor and a thousand times better than loads of far more famous singers. I'm not such a great fan of Franco lo Giudice, who always seemed like a pocket Pertile to me (and I'm certainly not crazy about Pertile, either).

As far as underrated singers, the question is do you mean (a) singers who were highly valued at their time but are totally forgotten today, or (b) singers who didn't receive the deserved recognition even in their own days? A few examples for singers of the (b) category - about some of them, almost nothing is known at all:
Tenors:
Louis Orliac, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sje4yDajWN8
Arthur Preuss, http://www.dismarc.org/index.php?form=d ... A2556&db=0
Andrea Maggi, http://www.dismarc.org/index.php?form=d ... A9090&db=0
Émile-Frantz Sardet, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-b6RiNx6M0
Karl Ziegler, http://www.dismarc.org/index.php?form=d ... 22217&db=0
Tengiz Zaalishvili, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83mh9k7qkzU (incomplete information on Youtube: this is the famous and beautiful aria "Tavo chemo" from the foremost Georgian opera, Daisi by Zacharia Paliashvili)
Lütfiyar İmanov, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtkabIkiyP0 (incomplete information again: this time, it's the foremost Azerbaijanian opera, Köroğlu by Üzeyir Hacıbəyov, and the title of the aria is "Seni gördüm"; stunningly great music too, by the way)
Kurt Wehofschitz (no commendable recordings on the internet, though quite a lot of stuff is on Youtube - he was an exceptionally gifted operatic tenor, a huge talent totally wasted on alcohol and operetta)

Baritones:
Anton Moser, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdDI-1A3JLE
Giovanni Milani, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVjFyNIDBB8
Vincenzo Reschiglian, http://www.lavoceantica.it/Baritono/Res ... ncenzo.htm (he sang only the very smallest parts at the Met for most of his career - not because of vocal insufficiency but because of insufficient health: a life-long heart disease didn't allow him to exhaust his constitution more than those tiny parts did)
Carlo Ferretti (nothing available online, only a chronology: http://www.lavoceantica.it/Baritono/Fer ... 0Carlo.htm - the discography there is grossly incomplete)
Franco Pagliazzi, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjLyiy1qM8
Michael Burt (nothing available online)

Basses:
Pierre d'Assy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btMxmxxmrvQ
Armand Narçon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9xvA4lUS3U
Pierre Dupré, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duAYJ43Xu0s (start listening at 11:49)
Louis van de Sande (as a bass, which in fact he was on stage, he is unavailable online; on Youtube, you'll only find him as a crooning baritone, which is somewhat less pleasant than his operatic recordings)
Vasilij Sharonov, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWOK0P1pgvc
Endre Koréh, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXd1mBtMTkI

Sopranos:
Eva Hadrabová, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OijJysNw7Q (confusingly, she's singing mezzo here, but she actually was first and foremost a soprano)
Anny Konetzni, http://redmp3.su/6026752/erich-kleiber- ... leise.html

Mezzos:
Gabriele Sima, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyB40Q36708
Ildiko Szönyi, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmggUxveJhk

Contralto:
Tamara Sinjavskaja, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmaxKwgcxfs (this is neo-Soviet cosmonaut glorification, true fun, albeit involuntarily so!)

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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby TifosoBonisolli » 12 Mar 2016, 13:14

I forgot actually the one who was probably the single most underrated singer of all times... difficult to remember when thinking about opera singers: contralto Bally Prell. She needs a bit of explanation: she was in fact a huge star - in the narrow field of Bavarian folk music, where she attracted crowds of enthusiastic followers as a singer-comedian on alehouse stages, mocking her own ungainly physical appearance, grotesquely dressed up as "beauty queen": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ob3dJTi64
But in private, her musical aspirations were way higher. She was, though entirely self-taught, an accomplished singer and pianist, and at home, she made hundreds of tape recordings singing classical music, quite always self-accompanied at the piano. She thought of herself as a tenor, so she would always sing tenor arias - but much transposed since she was in fact a bass-baritone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoCo7VWDUwc. With a different background and education, I'm sure she would have become the most famous contralto of all times, and today had twice the mythical status of Kathleen Ferrier...

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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby Pawelot » 18 Mar 2016, 19:46

Franco Pagliazzi is excellent...


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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby Geoff » 19 Mar 2016, 23:18

Pawel: With regard to Pagliazzi - I agree. Pretty fantastic isn't he ? I had never heard of him.
Tifosi bonisolli: An impressive list you've posted, to be sure. I don't think I would agree with all of them - it may well be that the stone-age recordings in some cases have something to do with it but then again, you're something of a walking encyclopedia of vocality which is meant as an admiring compliment, if you don't mind me saying so. I salute you. I certainly can't agree with you about Bolly Prell in comparison with Kathleen Ferrier (who personally, I can't stand!, - however, I recognize her well-deserved reputation and all that, but if I never hear her 'blow the wind southerly' again, it will be too soon!)

I suppose that we have to admit that we all hear things differently. My wife, bless her, says I never hear her at all - how's that after 55 years of marital bliss? !!!

Anyway, getting back to lesser-know voices, I have to admit that my preference leans towards tenors, one of which is Adolf Dallapozza. This Austrian-born tenor rarely recorded, spent almost all of a 40 year career at Vienna Volksopera. If he was starting out today, I venture to say that he would be in great demand:

Regards,
Geoff.

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Re: Most underrated singers

Postby TifosoBonisolli » 20 Mar 2016, 16:02

Geoff, I absolutely agree about Dallapozza. He didn't spring to my mind since he was really a big star at the Vienna Volksoper, but you're certainly right that he was underrated anywhere else. I saw him often on stage, and he was definitely the best Rodolfo in Bohème that I have ever heard or will ever hear; he was also a great Hoffmann. And I agree, as well, that he would be in great demand today - with the microphone reigning supreme in most opera theaters, his relatively small voice wouldn't be an obstacle, either. At his time, when singers were still required to sing just with their natural voice, his voice was not quite big enough for the Vienna Staatsoper, where he had only mixed success.
And his best recordings are not even online! Good as the "Mes amis, écoutez" is that you've linked to, there is a live recording from the Volksoper that is even far superior, and he repeats the last verse (yes, with the high D). Other live recordings are great, as well, then there are his private recordings where he would venture into roles that nobody ever let him sing on stage (there is, for example, an excellent "Dì tu se fedele"), and then there is his very first (I believe) LP, an elusive issue on an obsure label, with Neapolitan canzoni, very very good indeed... all unavailable online. At least the Neapolitan LP is, as a short online research reveals, available for sale currently, and there are two copies, so two of you can be lucky: https://www.discogs.com/de/sell/release/6111213?ev=rb

Your mention of Dallapozza made me remember another sorely underrated tenor of his generation (and he, too, was rather small-voiced): Vittorio Terranova. Hear him (the video quality is lamentable, sorry) outshine a far more famous colleague: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i8nzoCTUcs


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